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Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:03:00 - [1] I have absolutely nothing against the battlefield idea, if it is created by the players only. No specific coding from the devs required at all (can't stress that enough). Its all about trust. A corp can anchor 4 can's and deem that the arena. People can the sign up for said arena, but its the players who maintain the signups. People can also place wagers, but again, its player made. That way, you can get scammed, cheated and all the bad things that make EvE, or you can actually have a genuine thing running. Just like the BIG lottery. They to could have run off with the money from tickest sold, but they have not. An honorable bunch who setup a game within the game base only on trust. And it is still going strong. Yeah, it won't be easy and it shouldn't be either. But it should be player made and player enforced. That I would support fully.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:06:00 - [2] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Battlefields give consensual engagements That is the sole reason we should not have your proposed arena. EvE is a non-consensual PvP game.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:16:00 - [3] Originally by: Oris Pricington Edited by: Oris Pricington on 13/10/2007 11:09:04 Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Battlefields give consensual engagements That is the sole reason we should not have your proposed arena. EvE is a non-consensual PvP game. Answer my rebuttal to this argument: what is inherently wrong with optional consentual PvP in addition to existant non-consentual PvP? Adding an arena doesn't make all PvP consentual. You can't have both. Like warmth and cold at the same time . If you can conceeded to a battle with Bob, can Ryan and George then bust the battle? If they can't, you have effectvily remove the non-consensual warfare from Ryan and George. If they can, you have removed the consencual battle from you and Bob.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What utter nonsense. If I want cold, I go into an air-conditioned room. If I want hot, I stand besides a heater. If you don't want heater, you can stay in the cold side of the room. You don't have to participate in battlefields if you don't want to. You are like those people who are anti-ambulation, don't dock if you don't want to see your toon. Eh? You should read what I wrote again. I do belive I mentioned the words at the same time.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Some Caldari Whats wrong with people having the chance to have a quick fight in EvE without sitting in low sec for hours or finding you can't use bugger all on SiSi due to your skills being 3 months out of date? We've been having threads spring up about eve needing some mindless fun for those that don't want to dedicate 4 hours of sitting around for 5 mins of fun. And like some have said it may even add side professions to the game. You're right this isn't WoW but what the hell does that have do do with things? It's still a good idea and would help when you only have 15 mins to play. There is absolutely nothing wrong with people having a chance of a quick fight. But it is nothing the devs should setup, it should be 100% player run. So, start a channel called "Arena 1" (or what not), invite friends and strangers to it, advertise it on the forums for like minded people and arrange your arena battles anywhere you want to. Do not turn to the devs for a solution. Use the tools, with all the dangers that follows. Thats what they are there for.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What is so fail with arenas? I do not understand this slang. Nothing, now go make it in game. Don't turn to devs.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.14 09:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace If you don't like arena combat don't take part As said before, I have no problem with arena's. But, if you and a friend go for a fight in the Arena, then I should be allowed to suicide gank you both, if I can before concord burns my ship to pieces. That is the part that dissapears with hard-coded closed arena's.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.10.15 08:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes Originally by: Telemicus Thrace If you don't like arena combat don't take part As said before, I have no problem with arena's. But, if you and a friend go for a fight in the Arena, then I should be allowed to suicide gank you both, if I can before concord burns my ship to pieces. That is the part that dissapears with hard-coded closed arena's. Then make them hard-coded open arenas. You should be allowed to employ every non-exploit dirty trick in the book, including suiciding. Again, the question is if that would invalidate the match or not. No one here (except Jenny Spitfire Mk2) is advocating a lossless, compartmentalized, WoW-esque arena. We're talking about an official means by which we can engage in a short-duration PvP activity in a framework that discourages blatant abuse. Why does it have to be official? The BIG lottery is not official in any way. And you want to hardcode 4 cans in every system with a beacon in the middle? Why??? And about the match being invalid, thats up to whoever setups the arena to decide. If you setup the Arena, then it's your rules. If I set it up, it will be my rules. What is wrong with players creating the content with available tools??? Are you guys so lazy or just afraid? You want it, you make it.

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